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hello and it's time for our listener

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feedback episode on the strange case of

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carlos allende and we've got a number of

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things going on here

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not just

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some feedback from listeners but some

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other contributions from listeners and

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a little bit of a treat if you can call

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it that

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as we get to the end in the form of an

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interview or conversation between grey

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barker and carlos allende from 1967

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it's not the epic 90 minute one that's

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out there but it is one that is out

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there and thank you to listener brian r

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for pointing me

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in the direction of that when i had not

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been able to find anything like that so

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cheers brian thanks a lot for that we're

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going to start off not with some

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listener feedback but a listener poem

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from

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listener

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zachary and zachary has a website full

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of uh full of things that he included a

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link to that i will put on the

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show notes and

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this is uh this is a good poet poem and

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he gave me permission

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to read it now warning i am not a

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trained

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poetry

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recitationist i i don't know if that's

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the

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right word um

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bard i don't know if that's a better

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word maybe but um

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the men are from mars

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at least that's what i wrote when behind

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bars they said atom bombs couldn't do

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much more than harm and before nuclear

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holocaust their red world had been

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nothing but farm of course as you'll see

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much as you might imagine you want to

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hear from the space people you don't

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want to be me

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because there are no men from mars

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no men at all come from the stars not

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from venus pleasant and perfect not from

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jupiter under holy masters elect trust

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me or not not my choice

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even behind bars i do have a voice not

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that i am a prisoner for any law broken

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though soon i imagine you will regret

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having let me spoken for the cell here

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dear listener is of my unmake

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i have the truth you cannot shake there

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are no men from mars no men from beyond

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the stars

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just silver threads that tug and pull

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men with funny names all cold

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apple

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there are no men from mars

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no men from beyond the stars

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just lying truths spun as a web and the

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i liked that hope you did too

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okay on to some listener questions about

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our carlos allende episode and again if

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as i'm recording this your question had

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not reached me then i will address it

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later on so first of all

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kyle who's on the chiso media patreon

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over at patreon.com chiso media says my

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questions for that episode

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now that we've established a precedent

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for a more liberal usage of the term

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deathbed confession when do you plan on

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probably by august of this year i'm

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start planning my pre-death bed

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confession hopefully that'll give me at

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least another 10 years or so kyle also

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asks if you could in fact reanimate a

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dead ufo writer to have lunch with

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who would it be don't say barker ah

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shoot i can't say barker okay um

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i that's a that's an interesting

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difficult question

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oh boy i'd have to say george adamski

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but only if i could somehow compel him

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to tell me the truth

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about things that

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caveat on that

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otherwise oh dead ufo people

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well just because i've been enmeshed in

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this topic for

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a while now um

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i think i think morris k jessup would be

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i'd like to hear what he has to say

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because on the one hand we have people

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saying that well jessup was deeply

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involved in working on the philadelphia

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experiment when they came to get him

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after they read his book and other

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people like john keel sang

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jessup thought

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all of those annotations were were bunk

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and just kind of

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a waste of time i would like to hear

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from him

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what he thought of those annotations and

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the whole thing i think that would be

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just some others truman bathroom i'd

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like to talk to truman bathroom

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talk to um

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jim mosley because i never got the

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chance to talk to him when he was alive

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and i i think if he had

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lived about five years longer or i'd

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been about five years older

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we probably would have crossed paths um

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we we knew enough people in common at

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least i do now that that would have been

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that would have been good um

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that's my list uh

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kirk also on the patreon says i too was

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impressed by the grit and humanity of ms

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dowers as well as her mastery of pros

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especially given her humble background

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so what's your personal opinion oh this

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question what's your first look with

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opinion as to why the onr employees in

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the vero manufacturing company took the

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trouble to publish jessup's book with

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allende's annotations an mj-12 style

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effort to muddy ufological waters a

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literary practical joke or could it be

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that a number of individuals at onr took

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the peculiar ideas expressed in it

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seriously after all over the years we

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have heard that there are strange

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pockets of people within the government

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and military that are into all sorts of

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strange stuff

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i think a little bit of a practical joke

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and a little bit of some weirdos taking

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some of the ideas seriously i think

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there are elements

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of

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there um that's that's my opinion it's

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somewhere between those two options red

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pill junkie commenting on the website

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says great job on this one thank you i

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could almost hear the cogs inside your

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head starting to screech by the end of

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the recording getting too overwhelmed by

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the maniacal influence of carlos allen

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allende

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bamboozler who probably tried to bask in

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the questionable notoriety his sad

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little life ever managed to enjoy until

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the very end but in truth can we blame

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him for the way his tall tales have

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managed to endure and blossom for so

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many decades all this kind of reinforces

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my suspicions that many things in the

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world of ufology perhaps ufo themselves

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are some sort of memetic virus that

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spreads around from brain to brain

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maybe i mean that's i like that sort of

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sort of notion i will say that no we we

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cannot blame ayande for for the way his

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things his ideas were used absolutely

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not i'm not sure as i'd go as far as

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john keel did in um

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calling allende the philadelphia

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experiment's greatest victim i'm not

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sure i'd go that far although

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it's

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a case study in how

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you know your ideas can be used by all

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kinds of people in all sorts of ways for

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all kinds of profit that you don't

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necessarily

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get a uh get to participate in

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but i i do think yeah he's no especially

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the way it's gone post

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1989 which is what we're going to see in

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the the next and probably final

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installment final and a half installment

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of the uh the philadelphia experiment um

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saga here or the saga of the people

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who've been part of the philadelphia

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experiment and don't worry we're going

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to get back to aliens um oh you know

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eventually actually in this next

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philadelphia experiment episode there

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are some aliens there as well so don't

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worry we're getting back to aliens but i

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think uh next time when we get people

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like albilic and preston nichols and the

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whole montauk thing involved yeah that i

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mean it it's it's a a splinter off of

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the philadelphia experiment

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and a a sort of retelling and retwisting

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of it that is is at odds with allende's

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account and they

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as we'll see go out of their way to

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minimize allende's contributions and um

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this didn't really come across well when

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i discussed the dowers book

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but uh allende and endoward had a very

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low opinion of the the post allende

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lester via email says is the

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philadelphia experiment as phony as

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adamski's photographs

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things can be debunked you know eight

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ways from sunday but there are going to

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be people who who cling to that

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idea um lester also in a separate email

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talks about sort of allende and and

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jessup and says that that both were

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apparently gifted individuals who

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couldn't turn their gifts into money

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conventional careers etc ayande should

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have been a pulp sci-fi author anyone

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could get a story into the pulp

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magazines of the 20s to 40s by the 50s

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which took a lot more work absolutely i

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think i think allende's stories were

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were made for a 10 thousand word amazing

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stories novella i i think that is

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absolutely uh absolutely perfect

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and uh and finally at least as of as of

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right now doc pinko on twitter he says i

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have the philadelphia experiment book

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but haven't read it i first heard about

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it thanks to the 1984 movie with that

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guy who played a high school kid on the

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greatest american hero which i also

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watched yes i'm a huge greatest american

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hero mark uh more aliens don't worry

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they're coming they're coming in

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conjunction with um the philadelphia

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experiment and montauk and all of its

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sort of adjuncts there

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so thanks for that uh thanks for that

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feedback thanks for that um that stuff

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right there just a little glimpse before

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we get to the gray barker um carlos

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allende conversation that we're going to

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end this with as a little treat for you

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um if that's the sort of thing you might

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define as a treat i don't know that's um

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that's kind of iffy but i do want to

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sort of say where we're going with this

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um the next philadelphia experiment

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installment is going to be

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albilic and the montauk stuff and i am

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going to i'm gonna place some limits on

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myself with the montauk stuff because

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the montauk project stuff is its own

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podcast series not even a a

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bunch of episodes it's his own podcast

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series and there are a lot of

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sort of

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spin-offs even of that there are some

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philadelphia experiment things from

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earlier that i did not get to because

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books had not reached me yet so i think

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after the the be like montauk episode

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there's going to be a final wrap-up and

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that might be in the the post um the

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listener post thing or it might be its

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own episode i'm not sure um it's my show

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i can go ahead and not be sure but um

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things like brad steiger's 1968 book on

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the allende letters the novel thin air

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which was loosely based on the

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philadelphia experiment ideas

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there are some spin-offs of the montauk

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thing that get into a little more alien

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stuff and some really weird stuff

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books by a guy named stuart swerdlow for

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example we'll look at a few of those

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there is a book by alexandra bruce that

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ties in the philadelphia experiment with

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the death of phil schneider who is

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connected to the underground dulce bass

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that's a real thing folks so there's

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there's a lot here i i'm trying to get

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as much

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of this sort of

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out of the way so i never have to deal

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with this topic again i i don't think

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i've bought this many books for an

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episode or series of episodes ever it's

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pretty amazing so that's all that's all

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i have for right now let's let's segue

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to

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carlos allende

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[Music]

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hello to my friends and correspondents

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everywhere

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this is grey barker and this tape is

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being made available

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as a part of the dissemination my

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research

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into

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the mysteries

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of the yendi letters the annotated

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edition of the case for the ufo

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the apparent suicide of dr mk jessup in

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1959 and other matters

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that still remain

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mysteries and are of great interest to

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various students of ufology now this

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recording is just being made informally

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it's not being read or it's just from a

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few notes so

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i hope you will uh pardon the way it's

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made but it's it's just as if i would be

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sitting here talking to you about this

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and that's how i would like to proceed

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some of you are listening to this tape

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has already read

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the annotated edition of the case for

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the ufo by dr mk jessup the facsimile

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edition that i reprinted and have been

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distributing for some years now

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those of you who have read this i'm sure

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this tape will mean a great deal more to

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you than those who haven't and to those

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who are thoroughly familiar with

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jessica yendi

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uh the alleged disappearing ship etc i

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hope that you will uh pardon me while i

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just sketch out some things briefly in

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case the person listening this tape is

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not too familiar with these things

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the mystery

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of the annotated edition i suppose

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started back in 1955 when banham books

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published a paperback of dr jessup's

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book the case for the ufo well that

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wasn't too mysterious but it was when a

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copy of this book was mailed into

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washington to the office of naval

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research there was a lot of peculiar

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scribbling in this book in three shades

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of blue ink

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evidently written by three different

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mysterious people are calling themselves

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mr a mr b

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and gemini

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these annotations were almost alien in

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their character very very strange and we

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don't know how it came about but for

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some reason uh possibly because of his

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allusions to a secret naval experiment

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this book surfaced in a very peculiar

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edition

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sometime afterward a company in garland

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texas named the vero manufacturing

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company was given this annotated edition

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by the military and in the office of

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this firm which manufactured

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electronics gear for the military

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it was laboriously typed out on offset

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stencils

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and the annotations were written in were

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printed in a different color of ink if

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you've seen the annotated edition you

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know what i mean uh then a limited

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number of copies of these were

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distributed

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also in this book were reproduced uh

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some very strange letters that joseph

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had received

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from

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a carl m allen or a carlos miguel

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allende

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previous to the annotations being sent

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in

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letters

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were

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that they described

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an experiment which allegedly took place

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at sea

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and during which

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a destroyer with all his crew

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became invisible

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due to the utilizing of the principle of

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principles of einstein's unified field

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theory

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according to these letters

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the experiment went wrong in in some

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ways some of the crew froze or were

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unable to recover from the invisibility

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imposed of the strange field

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and they could be brought back by

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a strange laying on of hands ceremony by

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crew members or by sophisticated

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equipment they're hurriedly ready after

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the experiment went awry

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we don't have time to go into all that

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now

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but if you have read the letters you

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will know what we're talking about

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for years

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people had heard about copies of these

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of this book but had never seen one

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after i obtained a copy and reprinted it

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however it's uh

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more generally known and a great many uh

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questions begin to surface for one thing

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who was carlos miguel yendi did he

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actually exist

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was he one of the people who annotated

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the

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washington

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well no one could prove anything because

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no one could locate a yendi

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and the mystery

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just went along

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however

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during the last couple of years a yendi

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or

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at least a man claiming to be a yendi

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suddenly surfaced and began to

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show up and talk to people and write

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letters to people

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finally i was able to have a meeting

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with a yendi in the company of fellow

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researcher james w mosley

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and we asked him some questions and he

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considered that we record his answers

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on a tape

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one of the amazing

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revelations that came from a yendi was

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that not only did he

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write the letters but that he did the

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complete annotations so he claimed by

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being able to change his handwriting and

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to write in three different handwriting

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styles

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i don't know if this proves that this

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man that we're going to hear

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is the actual yendi

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the mystery of that and the research has

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been done would take up far too much

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time but anyhow here for your for you to

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use your own judgment on is that

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interview with a yandy

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whether there is a an agenda or whether

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a yen day has disappeared and what i

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would like for you to identify yourself

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on the tape so that people

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can be sure

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that they are indeed hearing agenda my

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has been associated in the minds of the

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great many ufologists as the author of

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certain annotations

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on the on the k in the book the case for

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the ufo

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would you identify yourself as the

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author of those annotations

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i can and i will

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see here on my right

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long finger yes it is

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as you two witnesses here

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this finger and you can see it is

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scarfed

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and the top of it is once off and the

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nail has been smashed

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and so evidently i could not use that

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finger

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write with in a normal fashion

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this finger was done and obtained

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and managed during a shipwreck of this

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aspiring mountain

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right below the sand island lighthouse

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in march the 6th of 1946

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and as being as this finger was in such

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bad condition the index finger of course

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that you see is functional

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and as this long finger rests on the

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surface

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of the table or desk with which i would

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be riding it obviously became necessary

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for me to shift the thing my the

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position of my pen saw that

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that finger would not

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tender in as painful as it was

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and not rest on that surface but be

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lifted above the surfaces slightly so i

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shifted my

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pen

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and so that it would be between

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the long finger and the index finger and

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supported slightly with my thumb in this

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fashion i learned to write

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in three different handwritings

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and of course to emphasize that this is

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three different handwritings using

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different forms of

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capital and small letters

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and

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i

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colors

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to dramatize i deliberately

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deliberately dramatized what i wrote

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in those annotations so ash to cause

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science

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through its tender pride

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to feel

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awfully behind the times

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and to be urged and spurred on

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into greater

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uh efforts to advance

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and to arrive raise its level of

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knowledge

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which they did

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during

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the igy years which followed only a

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couple years after i wrote my

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annotations and i discovered only a few

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years or so ago

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from

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members of the academic community which

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i regularly and often associate with

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this

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ideas igy years

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were caused

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mostly and mainly

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costs spurred on

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by

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those annotations that they're all

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claiming such superior knowledge well

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how did the academic and scientific

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community become aware of these

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annotations uh how

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how did they find out about

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them we must face the facts that in the

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prologue

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of

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the

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navy

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bureau of research and development uh

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edition the so-called and a barrel

568
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,039
edition

569
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,039
of the annotated

570
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,360
uh jessica book

571
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:33,360
annotated by myself

572
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,559
i'm getting out is to uh get you to tell

573
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,880
us how that book was distributed and how

574
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:41,039
the scientists became to know about it

575
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,880
yes well

576
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,919
in

577
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:46,000
the front of that book

578
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:46,799
they

579
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:50,640
say that there were you know in the

580
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:53,840
letters to jesus and through myself also

581
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:57,520
the navy says that there who this book

582
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,559
uh the

583
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:00,960
naval reprints was

584
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:05,279
made for the scientists of

585
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:06,159
the

586
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:07,120
old

587
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:10,000
bureau of naval research and development

588
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:11,600
and for

589
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,039
colleagues at his fellow professors

590
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:17,760
or also in the rest of the enforce

591
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:20,320
uh functions uh dynamics and force

592
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:23,360
fields even as a physics how many copies

593
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,360
this book was distributed

594
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:28,000
as well as to friends

595
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,919
to who meaning uh industrial industries

596
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:35,760
and universities

597
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:39,360
who were contracted to the

598
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:41,279
old bureau of naval research and

599
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:42,320
development

600
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,670
all right

601
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:46,080
[Music]

602
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,520
many people

603
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:49,360
of the friends

604
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,720
to the uh colleagues outside of the

605
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,480
old bureau of research and development

606
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,960
as well as all the scientists the inside

607
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:01,200
of the bureau of research development

608
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:04,720
received by the navy's own words

609
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,760
by what they wrote in that prologue

610
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:09,919
forward to the book

611
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:12,400
copies of this book they all received

612
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:13,279
this

613
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,480
and

614
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:17,360
obviously logically considering that the

615
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,240
navy

616
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,400
then employed

617
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:23,039
well over

618
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:24,559
50

619
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,360
uh

620
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:27,840
scientists

621
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:30,240
in there of

622
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,039
a bigger partner it was well over 30

623
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,039
scientists physicists physical

624
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,159
scientists that's the

625
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:40,880
bureau of naval research and development

626
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:43,840
facilities they

627
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,480
had to print more than 25 because there

628
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,000
were more than 30

629
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,640
in the o and r alone

630
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:53,679
so logic informs you

631
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,880
and all who thinking people

632
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,000
that

633
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:01,200
not only were there more than 25 because

634
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,480
they printed them for one copy for each

635
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,640
physical scientist there and there were

636
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:08,240
more than 30.

637
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:09,279
so

638
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,799
fast forth that quality outside

639
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:13,679
of

640
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,840
nato research

641
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,919
should change its name from europe new

642
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:21,840
research and development too what went

643
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:22,720
on

644
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,039
for

645
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:29,600
friends that is people

646
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:32,559
uh universities and companies even

647
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:35,760
corporations that were contracted to

648
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,640
the uh all the bureau naval research and

649
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:40,640
development science coverage

650
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:43,919
this means that there were a colossally

651
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:47,760
larger number than 25. would you say a

652
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:51,039
hundred copies no i would not say it on

653
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,559
the copies i say more i will tell you

654
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:55,840
what

655
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,640
the president's or austin

656
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:00,320
v stanton

657
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,440
of the vero manufacturing company told

658
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:04,559
me

659
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:08,640
about the decade let's see

660
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:12,480
14 to 15 years ago while he was still

661
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,400
then president and at our first meeting

662
00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:18,320
he said

663
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:21,080
we printed

664
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,840
116 copies i received a true

665
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:28,320
yes it received three

666
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:32,799
i destroyed my first copy because it was

667
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:35,919
uh then and still possibly is today some

668
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,399
of the world's most dangerous churches

669
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,080
the only scientist specializing in

670
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:41,679
fossil fuel activity

671
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:47,520
there were logically at least 116.

672
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:51,279
a minimum of 116 however i later

673
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:54,640
discovered that there were additional on

674
00:28:03,110 --> 00:27:59,600
uh 25 figure 25 that were printed for

675
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,120
the office of naval research many years

676
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,000
after the old bureau of naval research

677
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,480
and development had printed the first

678
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,559
116.

679
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,159
therefore

680
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,640
the alt naval officer

681
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,799
who swore

682
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,360
he took on oath

683
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:22,399
or on his words of honor

684
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,120
as a gentleman and an officer

685
00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:27,039
and an afterwards trained man

686
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:29,919
who swore to child's purge burnage

687
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,799
that

688
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:32,799
the experimenting

689
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:35,840
in invisibility that is absolute

690
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:39,760
camouflage is still going on

691
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,840
that officer was telling the logical

692
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:45,279
truth and therefore

693
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:47,200
when o and r says

694
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:50,399
there were only 25 copies

695
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,440
printed for all men are

696
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,399
it is telling the literal truth

697
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:58,960
but it is not mentioning the simple fact

698
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:01,679
that for the old bureau of naval

699
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:03,760
research and development scientists the

700
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,080
self-same men but under a different name

701
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:08,240
the self-same scientist just having a

702
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:11,440
different name now called the oriental

703
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,880
they're not mentioning that fact because

704
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,279
the combined number

705
00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:20,000
would be more

706
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:21,080
than

707
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:24,960
125 and would be implicative

708
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,080
all the simple factor research in this

709
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,159
area of science is still going on

710
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,760
especially

711
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,399
since three july ago

712
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,679
about

713
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:37,440
25 months ago

714
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:40,480
during the soyuz apollo

715
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,440
mission

716
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,440
when an invisible star

717
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,880
was found

718
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:46,320
radiating

719
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,919
in the 390 angstrom region of the

720
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:51,600
ultraviolet

721
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,480
and

722
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:55,440
having such strong force field

723
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,399
uh

724
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,760
condensates

725
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,039
the density

726
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:01,039
that it proved

727
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,840
my own statements of the past quarter of

728
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:06,320
a century or more

729
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,279
that

730
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,440
invisibility

731
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,559
can be achieved by

732
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:14,799
using force fields

733
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:17,200
and knowledge from einstein's a second

734
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,480
repeat settings unified field theory

735
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,960
as well as the force field and unified

736
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:25,039
and ultraviolet

737
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,919
uh

738
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:26,960
light

739
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,200
my statement that this can be done

740
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,360
invisibility achieved through uv light

741
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:34,000
and foreskirs is proven to be true by

742
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,320
the discovery of that star there is no

743
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:39,120
reason therefore for me to remain

744
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:42,640
hidden away in old mexico anymore i come

745
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:45,039
forth and rise above the surface

746
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,880
and present myself to the public for

747
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:48,960
this reason because

748
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:50,880
i want the public to know

749
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,679
there really is a great benefit to be

750
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,399
achieved from foster field

751
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:58,000
research

752
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:01,600
and to not condemn the name before

753
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:02,559
trying

754
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:03,440
to

755
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,240
protect their secrets as even companies

756
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,880
and corporations even your own selves

757
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,279
have your own personal secrets that you

758
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,039
too also protect

759
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:16,399
why condemn someone else for having and

760
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:19,679
protecting their secrets likewise in the

761
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:22,799
same a similar manner i'd like to ask a

762
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:25,679
question now what is your name

763
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:29,120
thank you yandy mr yandy

764
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:30,240
there is

765
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,360
talk that you saw

766
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,679
a ship disappear

767
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:37,519
during experiment which i believe some

768
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,799
people have referred to as the

769
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:40,320
philadelphia

770
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,679
experiment

771
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,320
and you were an actual witness

772
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,640
to that i wonder if you would confirm

773
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:49,039
that and if you can confirm it if you

774
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,559
could describe

775
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,120
the incident for us i would like to say

776
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:55,760
here and now that anything and

777
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:59,519
everything that i and only i say by

778
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:01,679
myself alone

779
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,200
will be regarded always and forever

780
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,159
and forever by the scientific and

781
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:10,159
academic community

782
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,399
as merely nothing more than pure

783
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,679
hearsay

784
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,519
it has never been

785
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:18,880
validated

786
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:23,120
confirmed verified nor corroborated and

787
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:24,880
that nobody

788
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:30,320
not one of you so called the scientists

789
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:34,159
in the pseudoscience of ufology has even

790
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:38,559
needed a little finger to attempt to

791
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:40,000
to confirm

792
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,519
collaborate and verify and validate what

793
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:46,320
i have been saying for almost a quarter

794
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,039
of a century in print

795
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:51,360
you will shift my word alone

796
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,159
what am i a fountain of wisdom

797
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:56,799
i am in authority

798
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,600
let us face the simple fact

799
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:01,120
what i tell you

800
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:02,480
yes

801
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:03,760
is true

802
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:06,399
but you're going to be laughed at

803
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:07,600
forever

804
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:11,120
unless you yourselves go

805
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:12,640
and do

806
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,880
the research that logically needs to be

807
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,039
done to

808
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:21,600
verify confirm and corroborate and

809
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:22,799
validate

810
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:26,000
with the statements that i make

811
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:27,600
and i know

812
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:28,960
that you

813
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:32,399
are fastly caused to doubt

814
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:35,840
what i said i want you to doubt and i

815
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:39,360
want you to doubt enough so as

816
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:42,399
go ahead and see for yourselves

817
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:43,360
whether

818
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,559
or not

819
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,559
what i have been saying for nearly a

820
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,279
quarter of a century is so

821
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,360
or not so

822
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:53,760
i say again

823
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:56,399
in my old age in the 53rd year of my

824
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:57,440
life

825
00:34:01,669 --> 00:34:00,399
a week emaciated sick

826
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:01,679
and drive

827
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:05,279
quite probably not too long to live

828
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:06,399
i

829
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,760
yes

830
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,200
i saw

831
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,599
the d173

832
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:19,679
become invisible

833
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:22,000
right before my eyes

834
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:27,760
but i am not the only witness

835
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,800
and you intelligent people

836
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:32,839
you brilliant

837
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,359
geniuses never thought that there would

838
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:38,159
be other witnesses in a whole convoy

839
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,159
full of 107 or more ships

840
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,960
right over my head in the gun tub just

841
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,800
immediately behind my head

842
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:48,480
worm navy

843
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:51,200
a repeat navy

844
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:52,960
gunners

845
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,839
from the armed guards who sailed on the

846
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,520
same ships with us

847
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,520
there were army personnel aboard that

848
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,599
ship two

849
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:03,440
there were

850
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:05,839
witnesses who witnessed this

851
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:08,400
same thing they saw at the same time i

852
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,599
did

853
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:11,599
as approximately five

854
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,000
oh five in the afternoon on a nice clear

855
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,079
sunshiny day

856
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:20,560
beautiful lovely day

857
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,760
and not a cloud to speak of in the sky

858
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,520
only usually

859
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:28,160
or a few clouds are naturally small

860
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,359
clouds

861
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:31,599
we ship in front of us

862
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:34,400
you travel in convoy each ship must be

863
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,119
500 feet apart from the other ship the

864
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:39,839
stern must be 500 feet from the bow the

865
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,599
ship behind it

866
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,280
and vice versa

867
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:46,160
no sailors on the ship in front of us

868
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:48,880
whatever the name of that ship was

869
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,440
and i saw them watching

870
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,440
watching with their eyes

871
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,040
the same thing

872
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:56,480
that i saw

873
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,480
occurring before my eyes to the da173

874
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,119
as it became invisible

875
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,000
within that five-minute period of time

876
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,359
i am not the only witness in the world

877
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,040
god christ

878
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:13,280
man go

879
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,880
find those other witnesses

880
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,400
find the name

881
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,160
of that convoy

882
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:22,079
find the names of the ships in the

883
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,280
convoy

884
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:25,200
then they get

885
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,240
list

886
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:28,400
of all the true members and to do this

887
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,910
ship's articles it is a pink piece of

888
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,280
paper

889
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,359
for a facebook

890
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:44,480
it has the names of all the ships

891
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,440
crew members of the merchant ships crew

892
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,960
members

893
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,599
and then yet they

894
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:53,760
shipped a log

895
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:57,200
in which the names and addresses of

896
00:37:03,670 --> 00:36:59,760
those people those crew members that

897
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:03,680
were on my ship the uss andrew feuerseth

898
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,280
are listed

899
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,760
those addresses of all of the crew

900
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:09,680
members

901
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,160
i mean all of them

902
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:15,440
then go into the navy records and find

903
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:19,680
out for voice number three that began

904
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:24,720
on the october the 18th 1943

905
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:26,079
from

906
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:27,119
the

907
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,160
norfolk hampton roads

908
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:33,119
shipping area around there

909
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:37,599
find the navy records for the names and

910
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,440
home addresses repeat home addresses of

911
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,320
the navy armed guard gunner

912
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:47,280
gunnery personnel that were on that ship

913
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,119
the ss andrew hurston and also witnessed

914
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,800
this

915
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:55,200
find the plot

916
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,480
showing the position of each ship in

917
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,720
that convoy

918
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:03,200
and find the position of the asus of

919
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,400
your says as we crossed eastward across

920
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:07,760
the atlantic

921
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:10,560
after that great hurricane

922
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,839
and

923
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:13,760
find the

924
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:19,040
name of the ship in front of the ashes

925
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,880
andrew furses and there on that ship you

926
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:24,720
will find

927
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,079
many other witnesses also

928
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:30,079
and the ship immediately to the port

929
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,760
side

930
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,520
the throw ships immediately to the port

931
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:35,760
side in the other lane

932
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,280
of ships the other lane of ships you

933
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,280
will get the names and addresses of this

934
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:43,839
merchants and naval personnel aboard

935
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,680
that ship as well as the army super

936
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:48,800
cargo

937
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,040
officer that always traveled on every

938
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,240
merchant ship is his name too

939
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:56,880
and then the other army personnel being

940
00:39:02,230 --> 00:38:59,920
transported such as we had on estrous

941
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,240
andrew fear said we had army personnel

942
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,560
being taken to war

943
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,480
hear their names too

944
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,680
correct all i repeat all of these

945
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,119
witnesses

946
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,720
don't look at me as if i am a mountain

947
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,839
of wisdom

948
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:18,240
an authority to

949
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:19,200
be

950
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,480
uh accepted by all of science

951
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,440
let us face the simple fact science

952
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,000
regards my statements

953
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:30,000
until two

954
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:31,440
years ago

955
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,160
during the soyuz july

956
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,599
uh

957
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:37,680
so use apollo

958
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,800
mission rocket mission space mission

959
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,800
when they discovered the invisible sore

960
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,920
start

961
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,079
until then science regardless of any

962
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:48,560
statement that i made as absolutely

963
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:51,839
ridiculous and i repeat ludicrously

964
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:54,079
ridiculous

965
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,440
poppycock

966
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,800
absurd

967
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,040
preposterous

968
00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:01,119
let us face the simple fact that

969
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:02,480
therefore

970
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,079
science still is imbued and suffused

971
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:09,280
impregnated with the idea that anything

972
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:13,440
any ufologist says is there for

973
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,319
a lot of tommy rashford

974
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,599
you must do this research or you fail

975
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,839
yourselves and make yourself look

976
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:23,680
stupidly ridiculous

977
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:26,960
as well as if you fail to validate

978
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:30,720
and the science of ufology

979
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:32,800
into a real science instead of the

980
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:35,839
pseudoscience is now is

981
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:39,440
that concludes the tape a yendi speaks

982
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:42,079
for a complete list of tapes write to

983
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:46,400
sausarian press incorporated box 2228

984
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:51,000
clarksburg west virginia 26301

985
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:55,520
[Music]

986
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,520
allende has the greatest creepiest

987
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:59,359
weirdest voice ever